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Dan Ehrenkrantz's avatar

Who is rich? One who is satisfied with their portion. —ancient Jewish teaching

I’m mostly, but not 100%, with the “money is energy” folks commenting here. Here’s where I diverge…Before money, people also exchanged energy for goods. But it wasn’t calculated to the penny. It was based on trust. Money allows us to take trust out of the equation. Now we trust in the system that guarantees the money’s value. Money allows our relationships with people to be purely transactional, taking human relationships to a strange place. This doesn’t HAVE to happen with the existence of money, but it’s hard to resist.

So “yes” to money, “yes” to money as energy BUT a) careful to keep yourself rich by paying attention to where dissatisfaction in your life is coming from and b) resist relating to humans as transactional beings rather than the energetic beings that they are—even though money encourages the transactional mindset.

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Julie Schmidt's avatar

Sam, I would have loved to join this meeting...but my time I was already fast asleep for a few hours. I am sure it was a lively conversation because it's a big subject! Abundance is easier to talk about because it can show up in multiple ways. Ways that you brought forward, like Nature, for she is soooo fruitful. And she teaches us what abundance is even in times of waning, ebbing & wilting. For it is not always the harvest. It can be gratitude, silence, stillness, compost, change, etc. And also, as you said, love and kindness.

Money is another conversation. I feel at its root it is only energy. Truly that is what everything is. The bottom line is how are we in relationship with this energy and as you also brought forward, what are our beliefs about it. Anything can be made evil if done with greed and used in ways that are demeaning, exclusive and withholding. I feel it is not so much money that is the issue, but more the structure of our culture. For as it is right now, it seems to be only breeding disparity and hierarchy. The very wealthy and the extremely poor. Money can be a beautiful way of exchange. A win-win relationship. The key being relationship. But our society seems to focus more on the win-lose.

And I believe grass roots change is powerful. For me that is an inside job. Focusing on similar ideas that you brought forward in your third understanding. Which is how I live my life right now. This has not always been the case, but that is what growth and transformation is all about.

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